Curse

-.- · Nov 24, 2006, 07:29 AM // 07:29

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Originally Posted by aohige

For those people that asked me about how to split up the two groups, I took a video recording of my current monk run. Will put them up in the morning on youtube

Once you get used to it, my method is actually quite easy.
(which puts the two groups very far apart, barely in the radar range)

If you're VERY good, you can do what Senator Tom suggested and have two groups both at the three heroes, and a THIRD group with just henchies.
It takes a lot of patience, skill, and luck, and does have dangers of overflowing on the henchie side, so I wouldn't recommend it as a "safe" farming though. However, it does theoretically give you the highest amount of points, probably in the 1200/h range.

I find that if you lead the lone Scythe of Chaos FAR from the places you will place the Heroes at, it works nicely. Just set up the Monk Hero with all the enchantments and position the Monk and Ranger at the Res Shrine and the Henchies and second Ranger at the other place. Then pull each Scythe to the rangers one at a time.

mrlopes · Nov 24, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

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Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire

A quick question: Do you guys keep Guild Wars minimized or do you leave it open in the window? I keep getting crashes or out of memory errors if I minimize it or try to maximize after 5 hours or so. Also, if I look at the memory usage by GW when it's minimized, I can see that it constantly keeps going up and up. People in town have gotten these errors too.

My question for the people AFKing all night: Do you leave it running in fullscreen?

I have the same problem, if minimized = memory error crash after a while, if maximimized no problems.

So i keep it maximized and turn off the monitor.

mrcake · Nov 24, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

My heroes wont stay where the flag is set, i set them to guard but every now and again talkhora decide she is going to go towards the ranger and sometimes the scythes decide to go for her.
Other times the ranger decides to move from the spot the flag was placed at and the scythes go for the monk

Cyan The Archer · Nov 24, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by mrcake

My heroes wont stay where the flag is set, i set them to guard but every now and again talkhora decide she is going to go towards the ranger and sometimes the scythes decide to go for her.
Other times the ranger decides to move from the spot the flag was placed at and the scythes go for the monk

Could be because the ranger is loosing too much health and therefore leaving his or her position to get some regen. Remember to put Tahlkora on "Avoid Combat" and NO touch skills.

I noticed that there is a bug with the Reapers, when they are around max size. Sometimes one of the duplicates will go up the wall and go straight for the backline. Just need to flag them right.

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Have the same problem with memory issues. 512mb ram here.. :/

mrcake · Nov 24, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Got it working now, only one ranger and one group of scythes but it will do for now.

Senator Tom · Nov 24, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

woot

Cyan The Archer · Nov 24, 2006, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Senator Tom

woot

Grats^^ Will probably get mine soon aswell.. Just my stupid internet is not working for some stupid reason i dont know... Cant even see how much i got from afk'ing last night!

(Gotta be fast before they nerf it

)

mrcake · Nov 24, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Still cant manage to get 2 groups of scythes going.. if anybody wants to give me a lesson or let me join them for some afk, im me in game

ign: Lazy Axe

Cyan The Archer · Nov 24, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

mrcake, if you're having a hard time doing the split, then do what aohige posted. Alot easier(I'm doing that). Spears are easiest to do it with, but i believe Scythes give a bit more an hour.

Here is his post quoted

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don't post huge quotes like that please. -the moderators

dj deviate · Nov 24, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46

are both the touchers kitted out with runes and top items?
if so thats quite a pricey setup

hui33 · Nov 24, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by dj deviate

are both the touchers kitted out with runes and top items?
if so thats quite a pricey setup

Dun have to... mine used the stuffs i picked... it worked well

The tuffest part is the positioning...

jinkas · Nov 24, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54

There are no touchers. They are R/N because they degen the Spears to death (Suffering + Apply Poison), protect themselves (Enfeebling Blood), and do a small amount of damage (Grenth's Balance, which neither of my R/N heroes uses often because their health doesn't get low enough for the AI to consider it). Don't get specific runes just for this (neither one of my ranger heroes has any runes on). You don't need a good weapon, either--you have no points in Scythe Mastery (they aren't even X/D or D/X) because they just use a scythe to spread poison to all the Spears at once (weapon damage is irrelevant).

Rah Balder · Nov 24, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by dj deviate

are both the touchers kitted out with runes and top items?
if so thats quite a pricey setup

Nah no need for Runes and stuff. Just a shity Scythe to spread the poison.

dj deviate · Nov 24, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

cheers guys have to try that as the other way i always end up with my guys dead through over spawning

Batou of Nine · Nov 24, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13

I have been doing the classic all hency/hero party farming 1 Spear copier. Untill i saw this post had continued! EEGADS! you people are too creative lol!

Well so far i got it to work for one Spear mob. I now have to try 2. I can also do 1 scythe mob, so perhaps ill try that also.

Quick question however, I understand why Grenths Balance is in the R/N bar, but at the same time it isn't seeing much use, if at all. I sat and watched Jin farm for about 15 minutes and not ONCE did she use Grenths Balance. Is this skill simply there for emergencies? Like if the bonder somehow runs too low on energy and cant use a direct heal right away, Jin can buy some time if she gets too low on HP by using Grenths?

Cause during these normal farming conditions i have yet to ever see this elite used... Just Curious!

cheers!

Jade_Onyx · Nov 24, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

It's mostly there for shits and giggles. I've watched entire movies and shes never used it. Helps with the initial killing though (to kill everything but the ones you want).

And ya, runes don't matter, I just kept mine at whatever she was set up for and she uses the preorder scythe.

aohige · Nov 24, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Good lord, it took an HOUR to process the uploaded file on youtube.
Their encoders must be screaming for help. o_O

anyways, here it is.
Setting up the farm

I'm using Medhi's Vow on both Rangers, btw, since they get ene back quickly.
But it's not necessary. The damage of Medhi being max doesn't matter at all,
since there aren't any points into scythe mastery anyways, and Torment creatures AR are high enough that weapon damages from weapons without meeting the req requirement is almost none.

In otherwords, any scythes will do, regardless of damage.

Arduin · Nov 24, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Thanks for the nice info all, especially you, aohige. Currently busy farming two groups of Spears, which already netted me approx 3000 points, in 3.5 hours. Not as much as with farming the Scythes, but I keep screwing up on those

To anyone who has problems with farming those Scythes too: just use those Spears, they are a lot easier to set up.

Only 'bout 40h to go ^^

Lost · Nov 24, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Not wanting to read through 999999 pages, but is the randomish nature of the heroes/henchies when combating the spears unavoidable. To illustrate what I mean:

I decided to Lightbringer farm in the Nightfallen Jahai. Right outside I set up my heroes (Koss, two monks) on a spear from the right group and the henchies on a spear from the left group. I AFK'd somewhere within range of both.

I go away for 20 minutes and come back to see the heroes battling 4 spears and the henchies battling 3. I came to their aid and brought both groups down to 1 again. I decided to reposition the flags (is there an optimal spot for flag placement? I tend to place it right in front of a spear) and let the henchies try again.

I come back 15 minutes later and this time the hero group has 3 spears but the henchies are preforming properly. I do nothing with the flags and just kill the excess spears. After this all of a sudden the heroes and henchies both go 7 hours without my interference and do well giving me lots of happy points.

But then suddenly the heroes cause a string of overspawns and dies before I get back to my computer. Fortunately I AFK'd on the side of a wall and all of the spears aggrod me but couldn't hit me. The henchies still only had 1 spear to fight.

Now back to my point. It seems overspawning is just so random. It can be 10 minutes or 10 hours before they fail. Is it luck or can I make improvements?

Cyan The Archer · Nov 24, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by aohige

Good lord, it took an HOUR to process the uploaded file on youtube.
Their encoders must be screaming for help. o_O

anyways, here it is.
Setting up the farm

I'm using Medhi's Vow on both Rangers, btw, since they get ene back quickly.
But it's not necessary. The damage of Medhi being max doesn't matter at all,
since there aren't any points into scythe mastery anyways, and Torment creatures AR are high enough that weapon damages from weapons without meeting the req requirement is almost none.

In otherwords, any scythes will do, regardless of damage.

Why do the Spears not run when your rangers use Whirling Defense?(If thats the skill, a bit too small to see)

Lost, what is your hero skills and Henchmen?